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==CCP changed rewards? ==
 
==CCP changed rewards? ==
 
Sevan Fagided (Khanid Kingdom) gave me lower results even though the new character has social V.  I will try another character to verify.  Other players data would be appreciated.  [[User:Uni Zueto|Uni Zueto]] 23:23, 1 February 2009 (PST)
 
Sevan Fagided (Khanid Kingdom) gave me lower results even though the new character has social V.  I will try another character to verify.  Other players data would be appreciated.  [[User:Uni Zueto|Uni Zueto]] 23:23, 1 February 2009 (PST)
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==Done==
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So I am finally done will data centers; I wish I kept a more detailed track of my standings, but since it did took me ~2 years of casual playing... here are my rough estimates:
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* cost in isks (buying tags): ~2 billion (may vary in time, that's my estimate on how much I spend in 2 years for the tags - yesterday I bought the remaining 25% or so that I needed for about 700 mil)
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* overall standing increase to 4 main factions: ~1.75 but if you do only one faction, expect much bigger changes - now I have all empire standings approaching 5, but in between, moving from one center to another, I had standings of ~7 to one empire and ~1 to its opponent
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* once you are done, you'll have ~9 standing towards a given corporation (useful as they offer lv5 missions which this standing allows you to use)
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* overall, this will also result in a major boost for Sisters of EVE, which seem to benefit the most and lose the least in the standing game (I have never done a single mission for them and my standings to them are now modified 7)
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* mordu, ORE and interbus, as well as Ammatar and Khanid seem to balance out more or less like the main faction, slightly below them (my standings to them are ~4), Jove and the Society are around 3.5
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* with maxed social skills (but no implants), faction boost per agent do vary significantly, from 1.3% to 9.35% or so. Presumably they are balanced for each faction, and somewhat tied to the rarity of dog tags in question
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Tips:
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* there are five corporations you need to have decent standings for, one for each faction. Once your standing approaches modified 7.0 you can safely finish the center
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* in hindsight, for new characters, it may be a better idea to specialize in one faction, avoiding any kind of standing with others (i.e. don't shoot empire faction ships!). This needs verification, but IIRC in the past if you had no faction standing, it was not modified negatively (or positively) from storyline missions, which means that you could try to max one standing and only than switch to another faction, in theory (this could use some number crunching) you may end up with somewhat better standings than if you do it alternating between factions like I did. Also, specializing in one faction could allow you to get closer to the near impossible goal of unmodified ~9 faction standing needed for [[Event_Agent#Improving_Relations]]. --[[User:Piotrus|Piotrus]] 21:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Revision as of 13:41, 7 July 2009

Still need several more agents reward information. The standings bonuses are divided by Social Skill mutator (i.e. Social skill level 3 means divide by 1.15). Negotiation skill effects isk rewards but it's not as critical if those are off by 25%. Uni Zueto 19:32, 13 August 2007 (PDT)

A good rule of thumb is 'your mileage may vary' with regards to all rewards :) --Piotrus 11:22, 15 November 2007 (PST)
Other Connections skill have no effect on the boosts only on Loyalty Points which these agents don't offer Uni Zueto 07:15, 19 November 2007 (PST)

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tag pricing

The prices fluctuate drastically and it's not a good idea to list the prices in the article unless you will dedicate yourself to updating them weekly. Uni Zueto 16:13, 14 November 2007 (PST)

I am fine with averages. I just wanted the readers to have some brief idea what will it cost them to buy the tags.--Piotrus 11:22, 15 November 2007 (PST)
Felt a bit sick removing your numbers but the prices vary depending on the week and the Region, like the Angel copper tags in Jita may have been 1.5m but in Rens they are about 250k Uni Zueto 07:15, 19 November 2007 (PST)

Suggestion: why not link the prices to eve central database? --Piotrus 17:04, 15 January 2008 (PST)

Those prices are based off of mineral content and not their value as turn-in's for the Data Center agents. Sometimes Angel Copper tags are selling for 2m isk a piece. Check the price in the Eve Database and it suggests 1k isk a difference of 200,000% The markets fluctuate greatly. Uni Zueto 01:58, 2 May 2008 (PDT)

Standing requirements

Added the standing requirements for the agents in the first table. Presumably the L1 QL0 agent requires some standings, too (-2.00?), but I haven't checked with any characters with standings low enough.

CCP changed rewards?

Sevan Fagided (Khanid Kingdom) gave me lower results even though the new character has social V. I will try another character to verify. Other players data would be appreciated. Uni Zueto 23:23, 1 February 2009 (PST)

Done

So I am finally done will data centers; I wish I kept a more detailed track of my standings, but since it did took me ~2 years of casual playing... here are my rough estimates:

  • cost in isks (buying tags): ~2 billion (may vary in time, that's my estimate on how much I spend in 2 years for the tags - yesterday I bought the remaining 25% or so that I needed for about 700 mil)
  • overall standing increase to 4 main factions: ~1.75 but if you do only one faction, expect much bigger changes - now I have all empire standings approaching 5, but in between, moving from one center to another, I had standings of ~7 to one empire and ~1 to its opponent
  • once you are done, you'll have ~9 standing towards a given corporation (useful as they offer lv5 missions which this standing allows you to use)
  • overall, this will also result in a major boost for Sisters of EVE, which seem to benefit the most and lose the least in the standing game (I have never done a single mission for them and my standings to them are now modified 7)
  • mordu, ORE and interbus, as well as Ammatar and Khanid seem to balance out more or less like the main faction, slightly below them (my standings to them are ~4), Jove and the Society are around 3.5
  • with maxed social skills (but no implants), faction boost per agent do vary significantly, from 1.3% to 9.35% or so. Presumably they are balanced for each faction, and somewhat tied to the rarity of dog tags in question

Tips:

  • there are five corporations you need to have decent standings for, one for each faction. Once your standing approaches modified 7.0 you can safely finish the center
  • in hindsight, for new characters, it may be a better idea to specialize in one faction, avoiding any kind of standing with others (i.e. don't shoot empire faction ships!). This needs verification, but IIRC in the past if you had no faction standing, it was not modified negatively (or positively) from storyline missions, which means that you could try to max one standing and only than switch to another faction, in theory (this could use some number crunching) you may end up with somewhat better standings than if you do it alternating between factions like I did. Also, specializing in one faction could allow you to get closer to the near impossible goal of unmodified ~9 faction standing needed for Event_Agent#Improving_Relations. --Piotrus 21:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


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